Honestly, John's attitude now compared to the beginning is kinda rude 😂 I'm not saying you did anything wrong, just saying John is... Extra? Idk, I'll stop talking now before someone thinks I'm being rude 😂
Great update! Was surprised by the change in Maccon's role in the story but the new role you gave him was actually really good. His new introduction when he was calming Jayce down showed more of his personality compared to his original introduction, in which we didn't really get to see his personality as well as the new one does. All in all, the new direction you've given to Maccon's route is really good!
Adding David to the cast was nice! His personality blends well with the rest of the cast. Also, him taking Maccon's original spot in the class was a pretty solid choice. David DOES look pretty young, assuming he is around 18 years old and compared to the rest of the cast but, contrary to popular opinion, I think it still fits. Some people just look younger than they actually are and David might just be one of them. Though, I'm not against a redo of his sprite, I'm just giving my opinion on the matter, haha! But if I were to choose, I'd keep the "young" look to him, haha. Either way, both the current sprite and, if you decide to, an older looking sprite will fit just as nice.
Loved the update! I'm already excited thinking about the next one!
But I do have one insy teensy tiny question... can David be added as a playable route? owo The way that Jayce and David interacted at the gates of the school was really cute and I can really see them working well as an extremely cute couple! owo
Thanks for all the time you put into this, Monchimutt! You're truly amazing!
Just wanted to say this is one of my favorite visual novels I've played.
I am a bit sad big mac isnt gonna be a student anymore, but i know you'll work him into the story perfectly, plus David is a hella interesting character
Is it just me or is David gonna get a route, cause it certainly feels like it. I wouldn't be against it, I'd be thrilled if he does become a playable route. I loved the interactions with David and his design is great. He looks young, but some people do look like that when their 18. I also like that he wears an oversized collar, it suits him perfectly. I really look forward to seeing more of him and learning more about him. Monchi, if you give David a route, you would be a godsend. Well, you already are because I love this VN.
I have to say it ... I REALLY IMPRESSED THIS UPDATE !!! :O , I mean that maccon is no longer a student, it is a great change because I think it will give more flexibility to his own route, but I think I will miss him :,( , but something that I loved was the brother of Maccon, David seems very tender, it's like a little creature that acts as bad but I can't seem to harm a fly (despite the fact that he stole jayce's wallet :v), my favorite part was when john started chasing david while tom and maccon was chatting, that really made me laugh (also that what maccon says about tom's last name makes me think that is true that he is not john's biological brother), for me this update left me eager to see the second day of maccon,I'm curious to see what happens ......
pt: it really doesn't matter so much I have to wait, your work is of such quality that it's worth >:v
What I liked: - The new introduction for Mac was pretty good! Jayce going through a proper panic attack was a good touch to bring that plot point more to the foreground than it has been, especially considering that this particular part of the game didn't really effect anything in the story before. - Using the panic attack to introduce Mac is also a great way to introduce him to the player and clue us in on his personality with how he responds to it; you didn't really get much of a feel for Mac's personality in his old introduction so this is a huge plus! - David is also an interesting addition to the cast. His particular quirks seem to play off the other characters pretty well. It'll be interesting to see how his character grows in future updates!
As far as this update is conserned, there's only one creative decision that I don't especially like, and that's the change in Mac's role in the story. Changing Mac from being a student/classmate is a very odd choice, to say the least, especially when he's specifically referenced in Tom's route when Jayce gets to class (specifically as a "beefy wolf" who sits behind Jayce), which makes me think this was a decision made sometime during production for this update. It also limits his presence in the story, at least logically. Mac being a student gives a reasonable excuse to have him interact with Jayce and the others often, as they go to the same school, but without that connection, a logical reason has to be given for Mac to be at the school every time he shows up there, and delivering David's lunch will only cut it for so long before it gets stale. Now, I don't know what may or may not be planned for future updates to Mac's route, but I feel like Mac needs to have some kind of role in the school, regardless, because otherwise the story is gonna rely on David and Tom to instigate most - if not all - interactions between Mac and the rest of the cast, which doesn't make for an especially compelling narrative. If Mac isn't going to be Jayce's classmate, then there are a few other options for his role at the school; he could be a student only part-time or taking some of his classes online so he has time to work; he could be a teacher's aid for some of Jayce and John's classes; he could be a new coach, assistant coach, or even an instructor for one of the extracurricular activities (e.g. cycling, tennis, dance) at the school; what Mac's role in the school actually is doesn't really matter so long as he has a reason to come to the school during the day and interact with the rest of the cast.
Other Comments/Issues: - I got a weird glitch where reloading any save that has John on screen won't load in his body, making him just a floating head. No other character has this issue as far as I can tell; this is a problem specifically with John's sprites. - David's sprite looks kinda young compared to the others, at least to me. Assuming Jayce and John are at least 18, David looks closer to about 14 or 15 to me.
Overall, the last couple of updates have really delivered in terms of quality, and this one is no exception; I just think it could still use a bit of re-working, and some of the creative decisions made for it reevaluated. The new direction with Mac's route isn't necessarily wrong or bad, just very limiting in opportunities for interactions between him and Jayce during the week, most of which will rely on David or Tom as the reason they're happening at all. All I'm saying is that Mac's presence and role in his own route needs to be considered when most of the cast is going to spend so much of their time at the school (eight hours a day for five days a week, plus extracurriculars). Food for thought.
As stated in my dev log, every update curses the old saves, so you have to start a new game and just skip. XD sorry!
David's design, like everyone else before, is getting a redo. Thanks to my sprite management system, I can easily change his design without having to recode >wOb
The game is pretty nice, even if it's short until now. The background art, the character's design, the character's expression... All of it is amazing! The only thing I didn't like too much was when the MC met Maccon for the first time. It was like the game was trying to impose a relationship between him and Jayce, not that I'm complaining, and this is just a silly point of view : /
Ok Monchi. About the last update for Maccon's Route. Great art, great music, great animation but the story was more likeable for me in the older version. I liked both Maccon and David but this update feels more about David and Tom that about Maccon and I find the new settings in Maccon's route set more hardships for Jayce because his interactions with Maccon now needs a least one of two persons as a bridge. I am not asking you to revert the story, I think that what happened in this update will be improved in the next updates for this route. So keep the good work.
I think the biggest problem is that since Maccon is no longer a student he's only gonna get half the screentime all the other characters in his own route are gonna have, since his appearances will be mostly limited to after-school scenes. He might get a few scenes during school but most if not all of them will likely just be him checking up on David and almost immediately running off to work.
Valient,I did not want to give many spoilers. But yeah. Now you will need a good relationship with Tom or David to get time with Maccon since Maccon is no longer a student plus you only get to have time with Maccon outside college unless he is doing something for his little brother. But I think Monchimutt will find a way to fix this without reverting the story.
Don't worry, we still appreciate your work, And as I always say, Sometimes, The things that take long to make are the ones that are the things that people will truly find meaningful and amazing.
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Soooooo, Monchi~ is David gonna have a route? because... that would be awesome~
As tempting as the idea is the dude is running a one man show with 4 routes so idk i'd hold off on it.
Honestly, John's attitude now compared to the beginning is kinda rude 😂 I'm not saying you did anything wrong, just saying John is... Extra? Idk, I'll stop talking now before someone thinks I'm being rude 😂
Great update! Was surprised by the change in Maccon's role in the story but the new role you gave him was actually really good. His new introduction when he was calming Jayce down showed more of his personality compared to his original introduction, in which we didn't really get to see his personality as well as the new one does. All in all, the new direction you've given to Maccon's route is really good!
Adding David to the cast was nice! His personality blends well with the rest of the cast. Also, him taking Maccon's original spot in the class was a pretty solid choice. David DOES look pretty young, assuming he is around 18 years old and compared to the rest of the cast but, contrary to popular opinion, I think it still fits. Some people just look younger than they actually are and David might just be one of them. Though, I'm not against a redo of his sprite, I'm just giving my opinion on the matter, haha! But if I were to choose, I'd keep the "young" look to him, haha. Either way, both the current sprite and, if you decide to, an older looking sprite will fit just as nice.
Loved the update! I'm already excited thinking about the next one!
But I do have one insy teensy tiny question... can David be added as a playable route? owo The way that Jayce and David interacted at the gates of the school was really cute and I can really see them working well as an extremely cute couple! owo
Thanks for all the time you put into this, Monchimutt! You're truly amazing!
please don't tell that in mac's route... we have to breaks tom's little heart :(
Tch, i know. I love them both already and rejecting Tom would hurt me haha
Yeah while i was playing through the route this is what i was thinking:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8K3W1wPXeA
Just wanted to say this is one of my favorite visual novels I've played.
I am a bit sad big mac isnt gonna be a student anymore, but i know you'll work him into the story perfectly, plus David is a hella interesting character
Is it just me or is David gonna get a route, cause it certainly feels like it. I wouldn't be against it, I'd be thrilled if he does become a playable route. I loved the interactions with David and his design is great. He looks young, but some people do look like that when their 18. I also like that he wears an oversized collar, it suits him perfectly. I really look forward to seeing more of him and learning more about him. Monchi, if you give David a route, you would be a godsend. Well, you already are because I love this VN.
TMW YOU CANT FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET MAC'S ROUTE AHHHH
EDIT: I FIGURED IT OUT I THINK IM JUST STUPID
EDIT AGAIN: NO I DID NOT FIGURE IT OUT GAHHHH
EDIT A-FUCKING-GAIN: I THINK I BOOTED UP THE WRONG VERSION LMAO
Yea i booted up the wrong version. Sorry y'alls lmfao
Is it just me or is Tom in love with Jayce? (the MC)
I have to say it ... I REALLY IMPRESSED THIS UPDATE !!! :O , I mean that maccon is no longer a student, it is a great change because I think it will give more flexibility to his own route, but I think I will miss him :,( , but something that I loved was the brother of Maccon, David seems very tender, it's like a little creature that acts as bad but I can't seem to harm a fly (despite the fact that he stole jayce's wallet :v), my favorite part was when john started chasing david while tom and maccon was chatting, that really made me laugh (also that what maccon says about tom's last name makes me think that is true that he is not john's biological brother), for me this update left me eager to see the second day of maccon,I'm curious to see what happens ......
pt: it really doesn't matter so much I have to wait, your work is of such quality that it's worth >:v
So a couple of things with this update.
What I liked:
- The new introduction for Mac was pretty good! Jayce going through a proper panic attack was a good touch to bring that plot point more to the foreground than it has been, especially considering that this particular part of the game didn't really effect anything in the story before.
- Using the panic attack to introduce Mac is also a great way to introduce him to the player and clue us in on his personality with how he responds to it; you didn't really get much of a feel for Mac's personality in his old introduction so this is a huge plus!
- David is also an interesting addition to the cast. His particular quirks seem to play off the other characters pretty well. It'll be interesting to see how his character grows in future updates!
As far as this update is conserned, there's only one creative decision that I don't especially like, and that's the change in Mac's role in the story. Changing Mac from being a student/classmate is a very odd choice, to say the least, especially when he's specifically referenced in Tom's route when Jayce gets to class (specifically as a "beefy wolf" who sits behind Jayce), which makes me think this was a decision made sometime during production for this update. It also limits his presence in the story, at least logically. Mac being a student gives a reasonable excuse to have him interact with Jayce and the others often, as they go to the same school, but without that connection, a logical reason has to be given for Mac to be at the school every time he shows up there, and delivering David's lunch will only cut it for so long before it gets stale.
Now, I don't know what may or may not be planned for future updates to Mac's route, but I feel like Mac needs to have some kind of role in the school, regardless, because otherwise the story is gonna rely on David and Tom to instigate most - if not all - interactions between Mac and the rest of the cast, which doesn't make for an especially compelling narrative.
If Mac isn't going to be Jayce's classmate, then there are a few other options for his role at the school; he could be a student only part-time or taking some of his classes online so he has time to work; he could be a teacher's aid for some of Jayce and John's classes; he could be a new coach, assistant coach, or even an instructor for one of the extracurricular activities (e.g. cycling, tennis, dance) at the school; what Mac's role in the school actually is doesn't really matter so long as he has a reason to come to the school during the day and interact with the rest of the cast.
Other Comments/Issues:
- I got a weird glitch where reloading any save that has John on screen won't load in his body, making him just a floating head. No other character has this issue as far as I can tell; this is a problem specifically with John's sprites.
- David's sprite looks kinda young compared to the others, at least to me. Assuming Jayce and John are at least 18, David looks closer to about 14 or 15 to me.
Overall, the last couple of updates have really delivered in terms of quality, and this one is no exception; I just think it could still use a bit of re-working, and some of the creative decisions made for it reevaluated. The new direction with Mac's route isn't necessarily wrong or bad, just very limiting in opportunities for interactions between him and Jayce during the week, most of which will rely on David or Tom as the reason they're happening at all. All I'm saying is that Mac's presence and role in his own route needs to be considered when most of the cast is going to spend so much of their time at the school (eight hours a day for five days a week, plus extracurriculars). Food for thought.
All things considered, keep up the good work!
I wholeheartedly agree with all of the above, specially about the issues with the new path for Maccon.
As stated in my dev log, every update curses the old saves, so you have to start a new game and just skip. XD sorry!
David's design, like everyone else before, is getting a redo. Thanks to my sprite management system, I can easily change his design without having to recode >wOb
For Maccon's screen time~ NO SPOILERS!! >W<
I have a crush on David UwU
Everyone does now uwu
The game is pretty nice, even if it's short until now. The background art, the character's design, the character's expression... All of it is amazing! The only thing I didn't like too much was when the MC met Maccon for the first time. It was like the game was trying to impose a relationship between him and Jayce, not that I'm complaining, and this is just a silly point of view : /
Wait what... Where is the download button? Am I missing something? ._.
Ok Monchi. About the last update for Maccon's Route. Great art, great music, great animation but the story was more likeable for me in the older version. I liked both Maccon and David but this update feels more about David and Tom that about Maccon and I find the new settings in Maccon's route set more hardships for Jayce because his interactions with Maccon now needs a least one of two persons as a bridge. I am not asking you to revert the story, I think that what happened in this update will be improved in the next updates for this route. So keep the good work.
I think the biggest problem is that since Maccon is no longer a student he's only gonna get half the screentime all the other characters in his own route are gonna have, since his appearances will be mostly limited to after-school scenes. He might get a few scenes during school but most if not all of them will likely just be him checking up on David and almost immediately running off to work.
Valient,I did not want to give many spoilers. But yeah. Now you will need a good relationship with Tom or David to get time with Maccon since Maccon is no longer a student plus you only get to have time with Maccon outside college unless he is doing something for his little brother. But I think Monchimutt will find a way to fix this without reverting the story.
Finally!! hell yeah been waitting... lov u lov u lov u...!!
done reading. OH GOD HE'S SO FKNG HOT I APPRECIATE EVERY SPRITE OF HIM, I'M RUNNING OUT OF BREATH I MIGHT DIE OF STROKE
I haven't played it yet but I can already feel that Maccon will have a shirtless sprite.
YAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSS
YES YES YESSSS
*knowing wink*
stickmanss chillout heyyyy chill don't go overboard
chill shhh shhh it's ok, heyyy calm down everystickman i'm gonna call the police brooohss have patience
monchi it seems i can't hold them off becareful they're coming at you
Oh my god I love this
*waiting intensely*
lmfao same
Oi, which route will be next?
(please tom's please tom's please tom's)
I'm assuming Maccon since his route is not in the game right now.
*LAUGH FROM THE DISTANT FUTURE!!* OWO
By the way, I always wanted to know for sure: does "maccon" spell [meicon](like in "bacon"), or [mAcon]?
Pretty sure it's the second one. I don't think Spanish has the long A sound unless it's spelled like "ey" or something.
Yes, it´s the second one. The first one would be with "mei" or "mey", mostly the "mei"
It's ok monchimutt..just take your time finishing it
6w6 *definately hide in a bunker in case of a horde of angry furries*
If you want to say that we will need to wait more so i guess this is wise idea
Just kidding take you're time
Take your time! Don't rush yourself, we can wait as log as we need to.
i know why mutt is taking too long for the update
he's adding more [BEEFY CONTENT] for Maccon *wink wink nudge nudge*
2-3 days they said so tommorow is gonna be the 3rd day, All this waiting is worth it if its for maccon 👀
Ikr peeps gonna be screamin if its not gonna update tomorrow
all this waiting... is making me CRAZY!
and exited :v
ok im hella confused lmao so "Help Rask" is that rasks route or Johns im confuzzled
Under construction .3.b lol
Well no kidding lol Gahhh i thought rasks route was updatedddddd
Oh right i wanted to ask, is the Wolf who speaks spanish going to be a love interest?
Yeah. His route was already in the game but it got taken out like 4 months ago. I'm assuming the next update will finally add it back in.
Ahhh thank youuu
The game is (fun)ny the dev is funny and the peoples who played it became funny too, like in the comments below lol. Still love you all.
Yeah .3. the delay may take 2-3 days. .3./ please dont stare, is creepy.
jk i love u
aww.. *insert sad Mac emoji*
nvm I can still wait *pats*
someone will be like if the update was short:
it's ok we still love your work we have patience uwu
What happened?
Don't worry, we still appreciate your work, And as I always say, Sometimes, The things that take long to make are the ones that are the things that people will truly find meaningful and amazing.
(Unless your yanderedev XD)
no worries ... *Stares intensely*
It's okay, i can wait :333 i love your work btw:DD
oh okaayyyyy~
I've been waiting since 7am for the update, I WANT MY MACCON >:"U
me too
There will be a bit of delay for the update, still adding and fixing stuff. Stay tune .w./
I'm gonna wait till 12 am if I have to, If I get lucky, I might even get to wait until 6 am XD
*Squeals*
Is the update today? :3
Probably at 11:00 am will start a discord stream and then publish it here :P
Im not sure though so I don't guarantee you it might be true what I said 030
Maccon route is the one coming ?
Yessssss but let's just admit that Tom route is the best !
I hope there is drama in the vn (I love drama)
RASK IS BEST BOI :3
Nobody can convince me otherwise
Yup!
Look in the mirror and tell me what you see. You see yourself right? Yes, You are the best boy.... Always have been...
ahh sh*t i can't fckng w8 for DADDYYYYY MACCON ROUTE i wanna ride his diiiiiiickkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk right now
hey self are you ok? are you going cuckoo rn 🤣🤣 you know what
you're not you when you're hungry
here grab a snickers
Forget to change accounts mate?
hahaha im crying 😂😂😂
Was gonna point out he said self but then I realised it was edited sooo nevermind